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posted by: surrogate (reply) post date: 03.10.06 (11:22 am) Then there's my favorite lyric.... Read no thoughts I didn't think myself. Just the same as anybody else. (Gentle Giant.) I've always thought that where artists have it all over the rest of us is in their ability to state that which we intrinsically know to be so in ways that make the thoughts themselves seem new and fresh. And for for being exposed to more and more of their combined talents throughout my life, not only am I extremely grateful, but also spitefully resentful and murderously jealous. posted by: tabootenente (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (3:29 am) that is the artist's ability--and also to know when not to say anything. i love this gentle giant line--i've never heard it before. in fact, i don't know anything more about the gentle giants than the name. one other thing about great artists--if you choose the right quote or lyric or image, you get a clear piece of their larger artistic purpose. you see the vision and adaptability and ethic of picasso in guernica; you get a slice of the irony and awareness of the ramones in a chorus like "we're a happy family: me, mom, and daddy!" and all of the starkness and avoidance of hope in hemingway's exchange in Sun Also Rises: "'Oh Jake,' Brett said,'we could have had such a damned good time together.' 'Yes,' I said. 'Isn't it pretty to think so?'" the masters pack everything into everything--in a way that a yokel like myself can understand. whenever i try to load even a little bit into a line, nothing really happens: i'm still a yokel. taboo posted by: PastorDave (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (4:06 am) The awful daring of a moment's surrender... That moment of surrender comes everyday, many times a day, for me. Usually it is with little things. It is refreshing when I discover that surrender truly leads to something good for me, that I needed not to fear all along. Often though we need to listen to conventional wisdom, and the conscience. Many times there is sound reason for the fruit being forbidden. Question yes. Taste, well not necessarily. Who says you know better than God? posted by: tabootenente (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (5:02 am) father, let's say, for example, that you're a priest, not the humble pastordave, and you have been tempted to break your chastity over and over, but your faith keeps you on the straight and narrow--but then, doubt, or the total of all your life's inaction moves you toward the "awful daring of a moment's surrender--" i'm not sure how much time you have for reading, but if you have the chance, it is time for everyone on the planet to read "a father's story" by andre dubus. it's a short story--though a rather long one--that can be found in several of dubus' anthologies. andre dubus, the original; NOT the son andre dubus, the house of sand and fog guy. anyway, the story is one of the best i've ever read, and it does a heartbreaking job of working through the problem of the "awful moment." i'm a moron. give me 15 minutes and i'll post links to this book and the others i quoted above. thanks for the comment, dave. taboo posted by: rcurry (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (7:33 am) I'm kind of partial to Thomas Paine's Crisis Papers, particularly Crisis I, December 23, 1776. The Crisis Papers can be found on the Yale website here: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/paine/pframe.htm posted by: rcurry (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (7:34 am) Oh, and every soldier's favorite George Orwell quote: "We sleep safe in our beds because tough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" posted by: supremeanna (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (8:03 am) I love T.S. Eliot. posted by: PastorDave (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (8:41 am) Reply to: tabootenente I will see about reading the short story by Dubus. If I can understand it without having to dissect every sentence, as is the case with some so-called inspired writing, then I will read it and then perhaps do a comment-blog. Should be fun. Wouldn't you agree that we all must make time to read. Someone too busy to read is...well...a fool. posted by: tabootenente (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (9:44 am) pastor dave, i don't do this very often with stories, but i swear to you that "a father's story" will be worth your time. you won't have to struggle with the language at all. one of the most impressive, most admirable traits of dubus' writing is his devotion to telling stories without a trace of irony. they are brutally honest sometimes, but he never tries to trick you. this story changed me. taboo posted by: tabootenente (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (9:48 am) rcurry, i could (maybe i should) write a library's worth of orwell quotes that i love. i'll think about them and offer my favorite later. interesting, though maybe not surprising, that you suggested the t paine papers. thank you for both selections. taboo posted by: tabootenente (reply) post date: 03.11.06 (9:50 am) anna, "i am no prophet, and here's no great matter / i have seen the moment of my greatness flicker / and seen the eternal footman hold my coat, and snicker / and in short, i was afraid." --prufrock. taboo |
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