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Five Conversations about Friendship
03.03.06 (12:35 pm)   [edit]

At ten in the evening on Wednesday, my "Teaching Freshman Writing" class finally ended, and my spring break began. Some of my fellow MFA - ers joined me for a soothing pint of uniquely beechwood-aged king of beverages at Tam's, our local divery.

After slaking my initial thirst with that incomparable first draught, I relaxed a bit and found myself having a serious conversation with a woman from my teaching class.

We were talking about friendships evolving into relationships, and relationships devolving into friendships. I was somewhat surprised to find myself participating in this conversation--not because I successfully avoid such conversations in general (in fact, I believe I have an unethical monopoly on such blather), but because I was talking to this woman on a non-academic level.

I'm learning that once you begin to transgress upon social boundaries, there is no end to what tomfoolery you can accomplish.

For the sake of practicality, let's say this is the fifth conversation about "friendships versus relationships" that I've held in approximately six weeks.

The first conversation about relationships, naturally, set off the cacaphony of other events, other talks, and each subsequent conversation flowed very naturally from this first transgression. This transgression took place with a woman I've known for a very long time--let's say she's a very good friend; it was a transgression, too, though any and all transgressions were of the verbal and emotional variety. Nevertheless.

The second conversation took place between my girlfriend and myself as a direct and immediate result of the first; though this particular conversation has been more or less continual--or at least cyclical--for the better part of the last two years.

The third conversation was a sad, heart-to-heart I had with my old friend's long-time partner--he happened to be one of my best friends.

The fourth conversation--a conversation about friendship conversations--spanned approximately three days: My brother and I discussed "friendship versus relationship" conversations as they take place within many contexts of time and place and responsibility. He pointed out that "honest" and "fair," when added together, do not always equal the value of "right." I was still stewing on this idea when I found myself involved in the fifth of the five conversations.

While speaking with the woman from my class--and mostly while listening--I began to realize that there is never such a thing as an objective conversation.

I knew this and know it still, and yet the blathering but ever-logical Taboo Tenente is addicted to the idea of defining and isolating different pieces of a puzzle, to the deconstructing of every aspect of an interaction, and to attempting the creation an objective perspective.

Because, of course, if you can define the specific problem, then isolate that problem from other problems, then perhaps you will be able to fix that specific problem. Then, quite simply, you can progress to the next problem and solve it with equal facility. Easy.

But there is always a context.

Why was I having the first conversation? What does it mean that it took place when and where it in fact took place? It could have happened at any of several other moments in time--and yet it took place at this time, at a time when this conversation would create the most excruciating of complications.

Why did the second conversation--so much resembling other conversations I've been having with my girlfriend--feel so differently, now? Did the first conversation really change everything?

Why was I able to have a rational conversation with the partner--my friend--when all the strange, twitching anger I didn't know I felt was beginning to bubble to the surface; when he must have been touching the surface of his own tremendous sense of anger and resentment and betrayal?

Why, when I haven't really spoken with my brother in so long about anything that really matters (except fishing--which, by the way, matters), was I able to have that cathartic, moderately-clarifying talk?

And finally, why did I have this last conversation with this woman, of all the people in the world, in all the places of the world, at this time of all times from eternity until eternity?

The answer is Context.

We can't see the context when we're in it; and afterward, in the next moment, our new contexts prevent us from seeing the WHY of the old context.

Everything in life inexorably moves forward: your thoughts, emotions, health, consciousness, morality, addictions, pizza--everything. And as life moves forward YOU move forward, making you new in every single moment of your life.

Your memory wants you to think of yourself as the same old hunk of meat, so that you can identify the logic to the madness; so you can mine the nugget of "you" truth; so you can locate the reasons for the now of your life; so you can believe that you've written your own story.

But it doesn't work that way.

It may be true, as they say, that a man's character is his character from the beginning until the end. But because of the newness of every moment, you'll never know HOW your character was ultimately defined. No one knows until the entire story is written.

So you must value the impossible, incomprehensible moment. You must understand that every moment means more than you can understand. It is a meaningless addiction to believe that you are stuck in a rut, that you are doomed to circles of sad living. You must try.

"The chipmunk ran into the rocks and a butterfly came out," Kerouac writes. "It was as simple as that."

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posted by: Atsunay (reply)
post date: 03.03.06 (9:04 am)

Wow, I like your style of writeing ^^ I also like this
"honest" and "fair," when added together, do not always equal the value of "right."
I'd say something more but my brain does not appear to be working currently. I only just got the jist of what you have written.



posted by: TaBooTenente (reply)
post date: 03.03.06 (9:20 am)

thanks, ats.

if you picked up even the jist, i salute you. im sure that in my effort to be both as vague and precise as possible, i made it nearly impossible for folks to understand what i was saying.

basically, i think things always happen for essential, fundamental reasons--no simple coincidence, ever--and as time passes, we find it easier and easier to think of these events as fitting some sort of life story that we are telling.

it is even easier to assume that we are the same old, tired human beings trying with endless futility to add meaning to our lives.

but i think that we are ALWAYS capable of adding meaning, and new meaning, at that--if we refuse the temptation to pretend we understand everything in terms of "who we were, and who we will always be."

it's an addiction: we see ourselves facing the same problems over and over again in our lives; and we believe that we are stuck in the same ruts; and most importantly, we believe that the methods we use to break from the ruts are the same as always.

which is how we invalidate our hearts.

taboo




posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 03.03.06 (9:37 am)

Well, taboo, once again I am not sure what you are saying. I can contribute such to my simplicity or your brilliance. Except that I like being simple. I like to read something and understand it, at least on a surface level. It seems you like to dissect and analyze and study, and find nuances, and explore cracks and crevices. I respect such. And your writings require the same of folks like myself. But it takes work, and I'm part of a lazy bunch.

I guess I have not really touched on the essence of your piece. Keep writing, and I'll keep staring into your works of art, and maybe every so often I'll see something that will spark some understanding.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.04.06 (4:42 pm)

"I knew this and know it still, and yet the blathering-but-ever-logic al Taboo Tenente is addicted to the idea of defining and isolating different pieces of a puzzle, to the deconstructing of every aspect of an interaction, and to attempting the creation an objective perspective."

--And then, a few paragraphs later, you spoke of the importance of context...

Disection does not produce a portion of the whole that has any value in an of itself... it simply produces a piece of the whole.

I worry that trying ascribe so much meaning to figuring out the why's of the things that are on our minds is misplaced energy. While finding out that a wheel bearing is made out of a metal that is too soft for its purpose is useful for future design, it doesn't change tha fact that for the car it's been discovered on to run squeak-free, it has to be replaced... now. To wait for the manufacturer to redo the specs would mean months or years of idle time, during which a lot of other things can rust out.

Okay, so I suck at the graceful blending of metaphors... the point is still valid isn't it?



posted by: TaBooTenente (reply)
post date: 03.05.06 (4:57 am)

hey surrogate, how's it going?

"Disection does not produce a portion of the whole that has any value in an of itself... it simply produces a piece of the whole."

yeah, that's at the core of the problem. while i do believe you can remove a section of the whole, look at it, learn some things, i also believe that once you've removed that section and anaylyzed it a bit, you'll never be able to fit it back in where you thought it belonged.

i saw a movie last night that i haven't completely digested yet--a perfect time to write about it is always before you understand something, right?

i saw Broken Flowers--the jim jarmusch / bill murray flick that came out maybe 6 months ago. my girlfriend hated it.

so maybe i was comparing it to Ghostdog or something (which i thought was fun), but Broken Flowers rocked me. friggin terrific movie. clearly im overreacting, but i loved it.

i'm bursting with a spoiler here, but i'll withhold. hopefully i'm not giving anything away by saying that we have a protagonist searching for something in the world that will help him understand himself--something external to explain the internal.

in some ways, he's retracing the past to help fill and replace the future that he is dreading. by isolating incidents from the past, and trying to compare them against each other, he hopes to understand a collection of experiences and tie them together.

but as he lives in the past, of course, or as he hopes to create the possibility of a new future, he forgets, or forces himself to forget the exact same thing you are suggesting with your metaphor (i think).

as david mamet once wrote: "the past is the past. the future is the future. but now is now, so fuck you."

is anything worse than years of idle time?

taboo






posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.05.06 (5:16 am)

I'll watch it this week!

Years of idle time? hmmm. I've done a few months of it in the last couple of years... You can keep it.

(and then you go and quote another hero!)



posted by: TaBooTenente (reply)
post date: 03.05.06 (5:45 am)

surrogate:

i'm quoting you here:

"To wait for the manufacturer to redo the specs would mean months or years of idle time, during which a lot of other things can rust out."

i think i'm going to use that quote a few times today, with your permission, of course.

but here's something i've wondered: are we really idling away our time, or does it just seem that way?

grace quoted one of my heroes (steven wright) on someone else's post. the quote was something like, "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

taboo





posted by: taboo tenente (reply)
post date: 03.07.06 (6:25 am)

allygirl:

tagged?! that's almost worse than chain letters, allygirl. i should have mentioned that i'm a superstitious "biotch," so no blame attaches to your eternal soul, requiring additional millenia in purgatory expiating the scourge of your sin.

so i stuck my 6ies (if the rest of you need to know, answers may be cautiously found on her blog) on your blog, and may the multitudenus existences of tendency and potential reality have mercy on our subjective conglomeration of neural networkings.

taboo




posted by: rizi (reply)
post date: 03.08.06 (1:30 am)

Hi Taboo..
This is the first time I am reading your blog and I am hugely impressed by the depth of your thinking and the clarity with which you express your ideas. A really good blog and interesting bloglet.

Quite frankly, your writing brings back memories of my own investigation of the matter. I divulged into the way I was behaving in different contexts over the same issue. This study led me to the same conclusions as you. I have a curious question - do you think that its an anomaly and you need to do something about it? (I did albeit very slightly)

rizi



posted by: taboo tenente (reply)
post date: 03.08.06 (4:36 am)

thanks, rizi--and i'm loving your blog, by the way; i'm planning on sifting through some of your older posts today.

all right, let me make sure i understand your question. you are wondering whether i believe that the repetitious sequence of similar-seeming events require an action on my part?

if that's what you're asking rizi, then you've put your finger on the ridiculousness of my current life.

i am in a relationship that means a lot to me, and yet i am unable to communicate with her in a meaningful, productive way (begging ayn rand's immediate solution);

i participated in a transgressive conversation with my "good friend." the transgression was framed by the timing, that we were both involved with other people--that we each know well, no less. but the conversation would have been a transgression at any point in our "friendship," because, well, talking about taking the next step is always a transgression upon the nature of friendship;

and now i am in a holding pattern. my "good friend" and i have agreed not to speak with each other until we figure out our "real" relationships;

and meanwhile, as i described in the article, this sequence of conversations continues with different and occasionally surprising people.

if i understand you correctly, you are asking whether i need to confront the occurrence of these conversations without having the capacity to understand the context.

well, i believe that i have to respond in some way. the question is how. i could choose to believe that the world is trying to tell me something--that it is encouraging me to confront the situation head-on; i could choose to believe that this sort of conversation needs to be avoided--that i should realize there is something wrong with me, that such conversations keep taking place.

i could remove myself from the apparent context--i could leave the city.

the problem with context is that you're always left with the realization that honesty is never completely honest; that honesty does not usually equal "right"; that right is too elusive to ever pin down.

i won't know what's right, what the real context of my life was until my life plays out, i think.

so i suppose rand would suggest i go with the most rational expression of my gut feeling (which, when i had the initial conversation with my "good friend" would have led to a deeper, more fully realized transgression).

kerouac might say that response=no-response. that there is no right and the separation between cause and effect is illusion. he practices buddha do-nothing. haha.

schopenhauer: accept that desire pre-exists reason' but at the same time, practice art, and practice empathy for other human beings who, after all, are as wretched as i am.

without any effort, i seem to follow schopenhauer's perspective, which is sadly pessimistic and largely impotent.

glad i could answer your question in the most blatheringly unuseful way imaginable. let me think about it and see if i can't come up with a more succinct response.

taboo


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